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anon_reee
I'm considering just drilling a hole into it to destroy it. but this will void the warranty
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j0cye56[m]
anon_reee: I think you'll have a better chance if you just open it and unplug, if that's possible. Or hell, if you're as drastic as drilling it, you might also just use a syringe to insert a drop of superglue into that mic. But why are you doing this?
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anon_reee
j0cye56[m]: because I don't trust Android at all and don't want a device in my home potentially spying on me
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anon_reee
superglue might work
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j0cye56[m]
anon_reee: What phone model is it (though I think we might get in trouble for OT [off-topic] with this)
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anon_reee
it's a tablet. don't know the model, some shitty Android one
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anon_reee
custom made for the device I'm using
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anon_reee
using Android oreo too, which is also a security vulnerability
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Resynth[m]
* Oh RIP
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Resynth[m]
So my 2 XL on Graphene isn't getting any more updates?
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Resynth[m]
Am I stuck with shit A11 forever?
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louipc
yea
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anon_reee
damn I need to get a new Pixel then lol
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anon_reee
but I don't want to. I don't even like smart phones
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louipc
yea get a pixel 5 and become device maintainer ;)
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anon_reee
I just use it because it's necessary for some things
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louipc
lol why are u here
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anon_reee
Signal, music when I'm out, phone calls etc
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anon_reee
just realised the battery can be removed from the device. I can do this when I'm not using it
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louipc
i guess signal requires a smartphone
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louipc
what device
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j0cye56[m]
anon_reee: Use a mp3 player for music and change your usage habity for signal and use it on a laptop then? Just get a dumb phone for calls.
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j0cye56[m]
The absolute number one factor why I want to use a smartphone is convenience.
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j0cye56[m]
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louipc
but then you will never have secure calls either
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anon_reee
oh nice. might try that thanks
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anon_reee
no calling? yeah that's a big deal I use it for this
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anon_reee
lol maybe I'll just bring a laptop around with me in my backpack and a wireless 4G modem when I need internet to check maps or something
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anon_reee
since I installed Graphene I've been using my phone way less, this would reduce it even more
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louipc
whats the point then.. just use a smartphone
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louipc
whats your secure os for laptop
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anon_reee
currently using Ubuntu but going to switch to Qubes soon
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anon_reee
yeah it's just a random idea
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j0cye56[m]
anon_reee: Don't say "lol" about that, I considered it.
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anon_reee
or just put your phone in a faraday bag until you need it maybe
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anon_reee
to confirm, does signal-cli work with voice/video calls? if so I'm going to use it
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louipc
dont think so
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louipc
i can use signal-desktop to leave a voice message only, not call. basically same as sharing an audio file
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louipc
and there are other limitations
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louipc
but its nice just for (rich) text chat
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anon_reee
the new version lets you take calls
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anon_reee
they added it recently
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anon_reee
so I'm guessing signal-cli shouldn't have any issues if your device has a mic/camera?
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louipc
oh shiny new version
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louipc
but you can only chat with people that have signal, not the rest of your contacts
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louipc
unless there would be some feature to route messages through the phone...
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anon_reee
yeah, that doesn't bother me. I've coerced all my friends into switching, and anyone who doesn't I don't care to talk to them lmao
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louipc
which would be kinda neat
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louipc
goodjob
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anon_reee
also does anyone know if deleting your data from old accounts actually deletes it? such as from Google, or whatever. I'm wondering if it's worth the effort
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louipc
anon_reee: have you joined #grapheneos-offtopic yet?
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anon_reee
oh, sorry I haven't, I will
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louipc
kool
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Biv[m]
> basically, you don't want to see that
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Biv[m]
by the way I saw this earlier. Some have to have a carrier app to unlock
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Biv[m]
<joltman[m] "image.png"> in reference to this
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Biv[m]
god dammit. basically some phones need a carrier unlock app but are still unlockable
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Biv[m]
mine was like that. I downloaded some T-Mobile app and it checked eligibility and sent the unlock request, boom
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Biv[m]
so don't necessarily pack up your phone and send it back until you've tried to get the carrier to unlock it
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Biv[m]
although beware I've had at least one dumbass seller try to keep me from returning a phone
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Biv[m]
but I ended up getting a mint 3a for like $200
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joltman[m]
Carriers may carrier unlock phones for you, but I haven't heard many people have luck getting carriers to help them unlock the bootloader.
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Biv[m]
<joltman[m] "Carriers may carrier unlock phon"> it's an automated app
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Biv[m]
for T-Mobile anyways
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Biv[m]
I've also seen Motorola do the unlocking for you
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Biv[m]
they have a site that checks whether your phone is eligible from the carriers then gives you the code
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M8942w[m]
hi i'm trying to install GrapheneOS and somethings not working. i followed the youtube channel the hated one's guide up to clicking on flash-all. it brought up the black window but then it disappeared.
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renlord
M8942w[m]: mind elaborating what "somethings not working" ?
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sphinxcat[m]
[8942w](
matrix.to/#/@8942w:matrix.org): Follow
grapheneos.org/install - not YouTube videos / unofficial guides.
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M8942w[m]
i unlocked fastbooting then copied sargo-factory-2020.10.06.02 to platform-tools then clicked on flash-all like in the guide but instead of the black window show it working it was blank then disappeared.
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renlord
can you run in cmdprompt and then show the logs?
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M8942w[m]
it is on a different device. i used the command prompt to unlock boot but flash-all brought up a different cmdprompt that was blank then disappeared
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M8942w[m]
should i come back on the pc doing this so i can copy the earlier command prompt that i did up to this?
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renlord
yes
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M8942w[m]
i'm sorry its geting late i need to sleep. i'll come back tomorrow when im feeling better.
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emergencyfood[m]
<M8942w[m] "hi i'm trying to install Graphen"> Please do not follow unofficial guides
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emergencyfood[m]
Go to our actual website and only follow our official guide
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neo[m]
<DC[m] "Oh, I see what you mean. I could"> Did you manage to sign your GrapheneOS build? I am trying to do it, but keep getting message:
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anupritaisno1[m]
[neo](
matrix.to/#/@draskosaric:matrix.org) it is already telling you what's wrong
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neo[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "[neo](
matrix.to/#/@drask"> Of course it's telling me, but:
-
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anupritaisno1[m]
I'm out of here
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anupritaisno1[m]
[neo](
matrix.to/#/@draskosaric:matrix.org) you're making a very huge mistake and aren't realizing it
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neo[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "I'm out of here "> Could you please point me into a right direction?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<neo[m] "Could you please point me into a"> No
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neo[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "No"> Thanks, anyway.
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strcat[m]
neo: follow the instructions on generating release keys
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strcat[m]
Biv: there are only regular Pixels (for various regions) and Verizon Pixels, not other models
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strcat[m]
if you don't want carrier stuff, factory reset without a SIM card
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strcat[m]
the stock OS and firmware is the same across all variants
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strcat[m]
Verizon Pixels have a Verizon carrier id, other Pixels are identical at a low level
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strcat[m]
some carriers require custom configuration for their network, but unless it's a Verizon Pixel that's just temporary configuration
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neo[m]
<strcat[m] "neo: follow the instructions on "> This is what I did:
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strcat[m]
the instructions never say to do that
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strcat[m]
you didn't put the whole command, and anyway you aren't supposed to do that for keys that are already encrypted from the start
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strcat[m]
why are you running `encrypt_keys.sh`? and why did you remove the end of the path?
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hnfpz5w6jg9hfjk3
Hi, How do I edit an existing contact, please? If I tap on one it dials the number. If I long tap and hold for a while this doesn't do it either?
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neo[m]
<strcat[m] "why are you running `encrypt_key"> In what command I removed the end of the path?
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strcat[m]
follow the instructions in the build guide as they're written there
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mrxx_0[m]
<hnfpz5w6jg9hfjk3 "Hi, How do I edit an existing co"> Go in the Contacts app, search for your contact in your contact list and click on it. It opens your contact's card and then there is in the top right a pen icon to edit your card.
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strcat[m]
neo: in the command I specifically mentioned
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strcat[m]
which you shouldn't be running anyway
-
strcat[m]
read what I wrote above
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mrxx_0[m]
Quick question does 'debugfs' can be run without sudo ?
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strcat[m]
doesn't need root
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mrxx_0[m]
* Quick question can 'debugfs' be run without sudo ?
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mrxx_0[m]
That's what I understand, but I can't run it without it. So getting files vendor gives me an error
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mrxx_0[m]
Saying that debugfs is a command not found
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strcat[m]
sounds like you're using a broken OS
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strcat[m]
debugfs works fine without root, if your OS has a package for it where it's only available to root please take that up with them
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strcat[m]
not here
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mrxx_0[m]
Thanks !
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anupritaisno1[m]
Or use archlinux
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
-
anupritaisno1[m]
Repeated join and leave and 0 messages
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anupritaisno1[m]
I've already tried to contact him on irc
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strcat[m]
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louipc
a temp ban is ok if someones having major connection issues i think
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anupritaisno1[m]
[louipc](
matrix.to/#/@freenode_louipc:matrix.org) it's an instant join and leave
-
anupritaisno1[m]
And it's been going on for a week
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louipc
he seemed to be fine in the chat even though the name is trollish
-
louipc
anupritaisno1[m]: i guess matrix cant filter join/leave messages?
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louipc
because if you were on the irc side you wouldnt believe the horrible spam matrix creates if its unfiltered
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louipc
anupritaisno1[m]: even if you tag me in chat it prints my nick plus a whole matrix URI each time
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neo[m]
<strcat[m] "neo: in the command I specifical"> Oh, I didn't do proper copy/paste. I will try without that command.
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neo[m]
<neo[m] "Oh, I didn't do proper copy/past"> I called script/encrypt_keys.sh keys/sargo
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louipc
anupritaisno1[m]: but keep trying to ask him about his connection.. do you want me to try as well?
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anupritaisno1[m]
Okay so
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anupritaisno1[m]
Thanks to all the 4a testers who messaged me
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anupritaisno1[m]
I will give you a build by today or tomorrow
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engulf[m]
Is this normal? That `2 Button Navigation Bar` is using over 100MB of WiFi in month..
-
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engulf[m]
* Is this normal? That `2 Button Navigation Bar` is using over 100MB of WiFi in month.. and those 10*** "apps"
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ey_caramba[m]
The Google Pixel 3a is not available in my region any more (propably forever).
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ey_caramba[m]
At the GitHub repository I found some Pixel 4 - related stuff.
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ey_caramba[m]
Because I am not a developer, but a high level user I ask for your expectation when GrapheneOS is going to release for the Google Pixel 4a.
-
-
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anupritaisno1[m]
Then we'll do a beta build
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ey_caramba[m]
I figured out that this was work in progress, but I was hoping to get a rough approximation.
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ey_caramba[m]
So I can get it in the next week or so?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<ey_caramba[m] "I figured out that this was work"> We've been having upstream bugs and I've had some issues
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anupritaisno1[m]
So the 4a bringup was a little slow
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anupritaisno1[m]
It should be faster for future devices
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louipc
are you gonna be maintainer for pixel 5 and onward?
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ey_caramba[m]
<ey_caramba[m] "So I can get it in the next week"> Sounds good, but please answer my question.
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "are you gonna be maintainer for "> Ask strcat
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louipc
ey_caramba[m]: i don't think theres any deadline
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anupritaisno1[m]
Mostly I'll be doing the initial bringup
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anupritaisno1[m]
Then a maintainer has to maintain it
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louipc
oh ok, then someone else would do more ongoing patching, extensive testing
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anupritaisno1[m]
Remember that where I live pixels are pretty expensive
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anupritaisno1[m]
So the $349 pixel is like $802 after taxes, delivery, all that bs
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anupritaisno1[m]
* So the $349 pixel 4a is like $802 after taxes, delivery, all that bs
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ey_caramba[m]
What country is it?
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ey_caramba[m]
* Which country is it?
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louipc
anupritaisno1[m]: whats the initial bringup, just booting, or CTS or what?
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anupritaisno1[m]
India
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "anupritaisno1: whats the initial"> It means everything really
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anupritaisno1[m]
Get it to the point of a stable release
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louipc
cool
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ey_caramba[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "Get it to the point of a stable "> How long do you think this will take?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<ey_caramba[m] "How long do you think this will "> Depends on how many flash the beta build
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anupritaisno1[m]
And send feedback
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ey_caramba[m]
Can you achieve this in the next month?
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anupritaisno1[m]
It'll still be listed as experimental for a while even if no new bugs are seen
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ey_caramba[m]
I can help testing.
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ey_caramba[m]
How can I help you with testing most efficiently?
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anupritaisno1[m]
[ey_caramba](
matrix.to/#/@ey_caramba:matrix.org) ask your maintainer
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anupritaisno1[m]
[aeonsolution](
matrix.to/#/@aeonsolution:matrix.org) will most likely be the maintainer
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j0cye56[m]
So, this phone doesn't have a carrier-lock:
real.de/product/337533696 ... but will I be able to unlock the bootloader no problems, right?
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ey_caramba[m]
Why are the phones in India so expensive?
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aeonsolution[m]
ey_caramba: if you want to help test, you should get familiar with building the development branch.
grapheneos.org/build#development-branch
-
aeonsolution[m]
this is step 0 and is the advice i also give to those that want to contribute
-
aeonsolution[m]
both for testing and development
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "ey_caramba: if you want to help "> And why can't you supply a build?
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anupritaisno1[m]
Testers are not going to be building the ROM for you
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anupritaisno1[m]
You have to supply a build
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aeonsolution[m]
because we already have the project, we need people to fork GrapheneOS subprojects
-
aeonsolution[m]
so it can be merged quickly
-
aeonsolution[m]
you add alot of overhead with your workflow
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "so it can be merged quickly"> What can be merged quickly?
-
aeonsolution[m]
the fact that i even have to explain this is so annoying and time consuming
-
aeonsolution[m]
yes
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aeonsolution[m]
its easier to review and get merged
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "its easier to review and get mer"> What is easier to review?
-
anupritaisno1[m]
Testers are not going to be sending pull requests
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louipc
you taking patches instead of pull requests, is that it?
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aeonsolution[m]
if someone has a workstation setup to do incremental builds they dont need to rely on one person to give them a build to flash
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "you taking patches instead of pu"> No
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redu321[m]
i am trying to install graphene on the pixel 3a but i get this
-
-
redu321[m]
<redu321[m] "image.png"> what am i doing wrong with fastboot?
-
louipc
i'd say pull requets are nice, but its not the only way to use git
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "if someone has a workstation set"> Let me get this clear aeon. If you're not even willing to put the effort to supply a build to your testers, why do you expect your testers to do testing for you?
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louipc
and that is the great power of git
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aeonsolution[m]
its problematic to rely on one person to supply builds
-
aeonsolution[m]
when everyone can build on their own and collaborate via git
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "its problematic to rely on one p"> You are the maintainer. Figure test builds out if you want feedback from testers
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louipc
not all testers would be able to do builds tho
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anupritaisno1[m]
No tester is going to build and test for you
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louipc
actually relatively few of them
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anupritaisno1[m]
Testers are not developers
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louipc
a couple might but yea it will be rare
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aeonsolution[m]
its not for me tho
-
anupritaisno1[m]
They may be developers if it is white box testing of some sort
-
anupritaisno1[m]
But mostly all testers you will get will do blackbox testing
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redu321[m]
<redu321[m] "what am i doing wrong with fastb"> anyone who knows why i not get the version info about fastboot?
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louipc
its fine to ask them to build, but it shouldnt be a requirement
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ey_caramba[m]
Thanks you are amazing.
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j0cye56[m]
ey_caramba: I don't know either but I'm reading up on it now that you asked:
archive.is/N19ub
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louipc
redu321[m]: sorry i dunno
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "its fine to ask them to build, b"> No it isn't
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louipc
anupritaisno1[m]: oh why not
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anupritaisno1[m]
It just adds "additional weight" that aeon was maybe trying to get rid of
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aeonsolution[m]
lol
-
aeonsolution[m]
ok armchair
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anupritaisno1[m]
What if the tester takes a shortcut while building?
-
anupritaisno1[m]
What if the tester doesn't follow the instructions correctly?
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louipc
hm what shortcut
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louipc
it helps test the build process too :p
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anupritaisno1[m]
Or messes up elsewhere?
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aeonsolution[m]
following the instructions on
grapheneos.org/build#development-branch is pretty straight forward
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "hm what shortcut"> There are many
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louipc
but yea in that case youre not testing the build itself, but the build process and the instructions
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anupritaisno1[m]
Like just flashing the images and forgetting to flash a few
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aeonsolution[m]
it also builds the group knowledge
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louipc
so it depends on what your goals are
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anupritaisno1[m]
Or not signing it correctly
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aeonsolution[m]
because just relying on you is not practical or pragmatic
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louipc
if your goal is to test a particular build, then you should only offer that image to test
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anupritaisno1[m]
Forgetting to run android-prepare-vendor
-
louipc
and NOT have anyone do the builds
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aeonsolution[m]
you dont even help with apv!
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "you dont even help with apv!"> You what?
-
louipc
i dont help with anything but the irc :p
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anupritaisno1[m]
As the pixel 4 maintainer I've already finished all my tasks for pixel 4 on apv
-
redu321[m]
i get anybody else who got stuck when trying to add fastboot to PATH?
-
aeonsolution[m]
you help with apv pixel 4 and 4xl but you dont help with apv
-
louipc
redu321[m]: well it didnt say 'unknown command'.. so something else seems wrong
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aeonsolution[m]
its an important distinction and its just for GrapheneOS
-
aeonsolution[m]
like if you are going to armchair critic
-
aeonsolution[m]
please be honest
-
louipc
ok i think he's just trying to suggest that you offer the build to testers
-
louipc
to make it easier for them to do testing
-
aeonsolution[m]
we are talking about something else now
-
aeonsolution[m]
its not about the testing anymore, its about him no offering help just critics in the most unhelpful way
-
aeonsolution[m]
* its not about the testing anymore, its about him not offering help just critics in the most unhelpful way
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louipc
he was talking about a tester that might not do a proper build
-
louipc
and then have fake problems in the build because of that
-
louipc
which would confuse the testing and issue tracking
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redu321[m]
did you all installed graphene thru powershell ot thru cmd?
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aeonsolution[m]
help the channel learn to do development builds is how we build up everyone's knowledge and support skills to triage the project
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anupritaisno1[m]
[redu321](
matrix.to/#/@redu321:matrix.org) pm me if you'd like remote support
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anupritaisno1[m]
<aeonsolution[m] "help the channel learn to do dev"> No
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louipc
aeonsolution[m]: i agree, but not everyone has that capacity or desire
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anupritaisno1[m]
It just increases the amount of support questions
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louipc
aeonsolution[m]: everyone has their own role right
-
louipc
that they are most comfortable with
-
louipc
and hopefully they can take on more roles and more contributions but it wont help to force it on them
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redu321[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "[redu321](
matrix.to/#/@r"> can you send me a pm? I am new here
-
anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
And I tell you to build the OS
-
anupritaisno1[m]
Will you do it or will you just walk out the door?
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aeonsolution[m]
i didnt say users, i specifically said testers and developers
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louipc
like if i filed a bug report, then u told me to build it?
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anupritaisno1[m]
It is the maintainer's responsibility to prepare the software that will be tested
-
anupritaisno1[m]
These are blackbox testers
-
louipc
i would be like. dang.. sorry i got other things to do
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anupritaisno1[m]
They are not supposed to be concerned about implementation
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "like if i filed a bug report, th"> Yeah
-
louipc
testers shouldnt need to be builders
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anupritaisno1[m]
That's pretty stupid
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aeonsolution[m]
lol
-
aeonsolution[m]
my comment is just read what i said, if that is your interpretation then i dont know what to tell you
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louipc
but yea from a bug tracking standpoint i think it makes sense to stick to one build
-
louipc
multiple build can mean multiple issues
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aeonsolution[m]
we are talking about bringing up devices not bugs
-
aeonsolution[m]
thats why its a development build
-
aeonsolution[m]
the whole conversation was about the Pixel 4a
-
louipc
but you need to resolve issues in the build to bring it up right?
-
anupritaisno1[m]
Are you serious?
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echotunnelriver[
Wouldn't it be possible to have builds premade but suggest to people that think they are experienced and explicitly want to learn to make their own builds? Kind of works for what both of you are trying to do. You'll get more testers with the premade ones and then also potentially get some more advanced testers that will learn from optionally building their own? Speaking purely as an unbiased person here.
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louipc
echotunnelriver[: depends on the objective
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anupritaisno1[m]
[aeonsolution](
matrix.to/#/@aeonsolution:matrix.org) no are you serious?
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louipc
if we are trying to train up developers then everyone should do their own builds
-
louipc
if we are trying to bring up a device we should stick to one build
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anupritaisno1[m]
So you are going to send out builds you haven't tested yourself to testers?
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echotunnelriver[
<louipc "echotunnelriver: depends on the "> I see. I don't know enough about the topic to speak on it beyond what I just said. :P
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aeonsolution[m]
why are you trolling now
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aeonsolution[m]
when did i say that
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louipc
i think the problem is conflicting objectives here
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louipc
maybe we should take a break from the convo..
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redu321[m]
did people here used cmd or powershell to install graphene?
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anupritaisno1[m]
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aeonsolution[m]
use powershell, its recommended on the instructions
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louipc
redu321[m]: people here use bash usually.. i think
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anupritaisno1[m]
<louipc "redu321: people here use bash us"> Lel
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redu321[m]
as administator?
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anupritaisno1[m]
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hnfpz5w6jg9hfjk3
Hi, Is there any F-droid software that would allow me to scribble on a screenshot taken from my Graphene phone, please?
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jpds
hnfpz5w6jg9hfjk3: I'm lazy and use Signal with its note-to-self thing
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rubii
simple draw has been my go to app for that.
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anupritaisno1[m]
<hnfpz5w6jg9hfjk3 "Hi, Is there any F-droid softwar"> Telegram foss
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doobry[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "I will give you a build by today"> Nice anupritaisno1 ! I'm looking forward 😊
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LinusSexTips[m]
Is there any point in enabling `Wi-Fi enhanced MAC randomization` in developer options?
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anupritaisno1[m]
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j0cye56[m]
OT but I just have to note that the username is funny.
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anupritaisno1[m]
<j0cye56[m] "OT but I just have to note that "> Here is secks teep: run
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j0cye56[m]
anupritaisno1: The m.apex in your name doesn't come from nowhere after all ;)
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j0cye56[m]
To get back on topic: I've decided for the 3a XL, but I really don't know where to get one that is Carrier-Unlocked AND OEM-Unlockable. I have considered this:
real.de/product/337533696
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j0cye56[m]
But I am not sure about this "totoshop" that has been selling there for just 3 months. The Fuzhuohan528546⊙hc mail address isn't very confidence-inspiring either. The only secure way is to buy directly from Google, right?
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anupritaisno1[m]
apex.to
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anupritaisno1[m]
Well they went down due to corona
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j0cye56[m]
anupritaisno1: Sorry, I don't get the glassrom reference. (
youtube.com/watch?v=DpuxJyvbhKo)
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anupritaisno1[m]
As for your pixel
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anupritaisno1[m]
Really you're on your own
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j0cye56[m]
Okay, that's unfortunate. If all ties break then I might end up with a device that is literally not unlockable, right?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<j0cye56[m] "anupritaisno1: Sorry, I don't ge"> Glassrom tried to get wide device support
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anupritaisno1[m]
But apparently hardened ROMs have too many issues the moment you go away from pixel
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j0cye56[m]
Due to the stringency with which the hardware/firmware is implemented, right?
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j0cye56[m]
(Or lack thereof)
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anupritaisno1[m]
<j0cye56[m] "Due to the stringency with which"> Other than oneplus, I'm surprised if a device even boots
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anupritaisno1[m]
Most won't
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j0cye56[m]
Yeah, that's why I wanted to make sure. Maybe I can find user reviews from people that bought with the same intention as I did, but this is a serious issue that there is no way to really tell if you can run it.
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j0cye56[m]
Even on compatible-listed devices.
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xmwv[m]
Hello, is it possible to call emergency on GrapheneOS while using airplane mode? Thanks in advance
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mastercakex[m]
<xmwv[m] "Hello, is it possible to call em"> Yes. As you dial emergency number airplane mode gets deactivated
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j0cye56[m]
mastercakex: Cool to know, I wanted to research it for him but couldn't find it. Where did you read it?
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seashield[m]
Who the hell is pencildick?
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louipc
seashield[m]: is there a problem?
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seashield[m]
Interesting name and behaviour. No problem but curious, that's all.
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louipc
yea weird name.
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res4[m]
It's almost like they just want to remind us of their existence.
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seashield[m]
There he goes again???
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karelappel
Yoo
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karelappel
When do you think graphene will make a build for pixel 4a
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mrxx_0[m]
<karelappel "When do you think graphene will "> Yes, it is a work in progress
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LinusSexTips[m]
it is in testing
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webweb
hello friends. quick question: has anyone gotten the video game among us to work on grapheneos?
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madaidan[m]
Sus
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webweb
suspicious
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LinusSexTips[m]
Just tried now, doesnt seem to work, no
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webweb
curious. is it the gsf dependency perhaps?
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webweb
i’m downloading through aurora store onto a pixel 3a
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webweb
how about you?
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
Hardened malloc exposes a memory corruption bug in unity
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louipc
nice
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anupritaisno1[m]
Please tell the unity developers to fix their mess
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anupritaisno1[m]
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webweb
alright so it is not the fault of the among us devs
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anupritaisno1[m]
Unity does something weird with memory
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anupritaisno1[m]
Hardened malloc catches that
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anupritaisno1[m]
And aborts the program
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anupritaisno1[m]
Unity needs to fix it
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webweb
right, so unity developers are ar fault
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webweb
at*
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louipcm
matrix is identifying people with different nicks and IPs on IRC side as the same person (pencildeek)
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louipc
I think matrix people just gonna have to live with it :p Payback for all the spam that matrix makes lol
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redu321[m]
Is there a option to factory reset the phone after typing your password of the phone multiple times wrong?
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dazinism
There is if you have a managed device.
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dazinism
Someone could expose the settings so they were available without that
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dazinism
Like the recent feature to logout of secondary user profiles
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anupritaisno1[m]
<redu321[m] "Is there a option to factory res"> Not needed
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anupritaisno1[m]
It is very hard to brute force even a simple password
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blacklight447[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "It is very hard to brute force e"> As long as they do not beat the titan M right?
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redu321[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "It is very hard to brute force e"> The phones of Encrochat were also possible to hack in to with physical acces because the chip was not secure i read in a article.
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critic[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "Thanks to all the 4a testers who"> omg I am so excited to test it :D
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anupritaisno1[m]
[critic](
matrix.to/#/@critic:matrix.org) yes, I'll finish it tonight
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anupritaisno1[m]
Hopefully if it all works
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anupritaisno1[m]
Probably after a quick smoke test we can release it
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anupritaisno1[m]
As beta
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anupritaisno1[m]
Obviously
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critic[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "As beta "> Please send a checklist of items to test too if you can. And where you want us to submit problems. I think you said to message you directly last time. I am gonna test the following:
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ye7k[m]
I want to disable the front camera, the most secure way would be disabling/removing the hardware. Can somebody help me disable/remove the camera on pixel 3a?
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lev[m]
there were good deals on pixel 4xl's on amazon, I believe clearing stock before the pixel 5 came out, so I got one... the page made it sound like these were ostensibly the google version, carrier agnostic, new in box
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lev[m]
I am gettin `FAILED (remote: 'Changing slot with snapshot applied may cancel the update.')`
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lev[m]
I am guessing that means this is a verizon variant?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<lev[m] "I am gettin `FAILED (remote: 'Ch"> Seems legit
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anupritaisno1[m]
Where are you getting the error?
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lev[m]
when `Setting current slot to 'b' `
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anupritaisno1[m]
Hmmmm
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lev[m]
I vaguely remember there being talk of some bug with these devices that caused an issue like this?
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lev[m]
but I can't find where I read that
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anupritaisno1[m]
It's basically saying there was a system update in process
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lev[m]
oh... I updated it as much as possible
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lev[m]
and restarted
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lev[m]
but I can try that again?
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anupritaisno1[m]
fastboot reboot fastboot and switch slot inside fastbootd
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lev[m]
I restarted the bootloader, and it says the same thing
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lev[m]
```╰─$ fastboot set_active b
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lev[m]
Setting current slot to 'b' FAILED (remote: 'Changing slot with snapshot applied may cancel the update.')
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lev[m]
fastboot: error: Command failed```
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anupritaisno1[m]
Dude
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anupritaisno1[m]
I said fastboot reboot fastboot
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lev[m]
ah okay, my bad, without the monospace to deliniate I wasn't sure what was a typo or meant to be a command
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
What phone did this happen on
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lev[m]
I am in fastbootd, am I meant to still do `fastboot set_active b` ?
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lev[m]
it's a pixel 4 xl
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anupritaisno1[m]
Yes
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lev[m]
ah now it says "snapshop update"
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lev[m]
`FAILED (remote: 'Cannot change slots while a snapshot update is in progress')`
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anupritaisno1[m]
Even in fastbootd?
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lev[m]
yeah, I think? the phone says fastbootd, and I ran `fastboot set_active b` in the terminal of the machine the phone is connected to
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lev[m]
or am I meant to intereact with fastbootd via the phone itself
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) just boot normally once
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lev[m]
kk
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lev[m]
I am guessing relocking the bootloader isn't necessary?
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anupritaisno1[m]
Or if that doesn't work there's other ways to get it to work
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lev[m]
but this isn't the behavior you'd expect from a verizon variant?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<lev[m] "but this isn't the behavior you'"> No you probably just interrupted a system update
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anupritaisno1[m]
So do what I'm telling you to do rn
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anupritaisno1[m]
Boot the system fully once
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lev[m]
that is good news, I felt my heart sink lol
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anupritaisno1[m]
And then try again
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anupritaisno1[m]
Okay well in case that doesn't work
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) you should be booted up by now
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anupritaisno1[m]
Shut it down and go back to the bootloader
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lev[m]
kk one sec, I was letting some play services thing update, and restarting again
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anupritaisno1[m]
Why
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lev[m]
I dunno for good measure
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lev[m]
anyway I am there
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anupritaisno1[m]
Try now
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lev[m]
same error
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
Extract the zip that says image-coral whatever the fuck
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anupritaisno1[m]
You get it
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lev[m]
yep
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Banekroft[m]
dazinism: Thanks for the link.
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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lev[m]
it was happy with that
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anupritaisno1[m]
fastboot flash avb_custom_key avb_pkmd.bin
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lev[m]
`Writing 'avb_custom_key' FAILED (remote: 'Failed flash avb custom key Device Error')`
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anupritaisno1[m]
fastboot erase avb_custom_key
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anupritaisno1[m]
Then try to flash it again
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lev[m]
okay, happy that time
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anupritaisno1[m]
Now run the flash command?
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lev[m]
flashing the avb_custom_key? that worked fine, or do you mean the whole thing again
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anupritaisno1[m]
So it flashed?
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lev[m]
yep
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anupritaisno1[m]
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lev[m]
okay, is downloaded and unzipped
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anupritaisno1[m]
fastboot reboot fastboot
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lev[m]
okay, rebooted and into fastbootd
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anupritaisno1[m]
Use the volume buttons and go to enter recovery
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anupritaisno1[m]
Then go to apply update from adb
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lev[m]
okay, ready to send the package
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anupritaisno1[m]
adb sideload coral-ota_update-2020.10.06.02.zip
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anupritaisno1[m]
Oh yeah you don't need to extract that zip
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lev[m]
its going
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lev[m]
yeah heh, oh ell
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lev[m]
* yeah heh, oh well
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lev[m]
okay, success
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anupritaisno1[m]
Now go to wipe user data
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anupritaisno1[m]
And wipe
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lev[m]
done
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anupritaisno1[m]
BTW did your titan m throw some weird errors?
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anupritaisno1[m]
Like failed to send spi message
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lev[m]
yeah there was a bunch of "cant send spi message, try again"
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lev[m]
btu then it said data wipe complete
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anupritaisno1[m]
Yeah I have those too
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anupritaisno1[m]
Anyway reboot to system now
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lev[m]
"android system: there is an internal problem with your device, contact your manufacturer for details"
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anupritaisno1[m]
Probably some kind of bootloader mismatch
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anupritaisno1[m]
Did you boot grapheneos?
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lev[m]
no, it's the normal google setup wizard
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) try switching slot in bootloader?
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lev[m]
oh it let me switch to b now
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
Try to sideload it again
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anupritaisno1[m]
That should overwrite the google stock ROM
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lev[m]
kk tying
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lev[m]
* kk trying
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anupritaisno1[m]
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anupritaisno1[m]
We can start a subset of the testing right away, in like an hour
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lev[m]
hmmm so I think this somehow failed
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lev[m]
changed the slot, did the sideload, looked like it was fine
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lev[m]
wiped userdata, tried to boot, and it failed (just restarted instantly) and I'm back to the google setup wizard
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lev[m]
oh no, there was a failure with the sideload:
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lev[m]
`serving: 'coral-ota_update-2020.10.06.02.zip' (~94%) adb: failed to read command: Success`
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) BTW you must reboot after changing slots
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anupritaisno1[m]
Otherwise it doesn't work
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lev[m]
I did I believe
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lev[m]
I'll try it again
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lev[m]
I want it to be "b" right?
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anupritaisno1[m]
> <@kdlev:matrix.org> oh no, there was a failure with the sideload:
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anupritaisno1[m]
> `serving: 'coral-ota_update-2020.10.06.02.zip' (~94%) adb: failed to read command: Success`
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anupritaisno1[m]
This is fine, not an error
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lev[m]
that's what I thoguht at first, but it differed from the success state last time
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lev[m]
but yeah, I want slot "b" ?
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anupritaisno1[m]
<lev[m] "but yeah, I want slot "b" ?"> No
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) if it allowed you to switch slot
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anupritaisno1[m]
Maybe the flash script works now
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anupritaisno1[m]
So try that again
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lev[m]
kk
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anupritaisno1[m]
What the fuck
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anupritaisno1[m]
git needs 11 GB of ram to rebase sunfish
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lev[m]
it's making it further now I think
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louipc
ouch
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lev[m]
I have no context to know how outrageous or not that is
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lev[m]
but ram is pretty cheap these days, 32gb was like $120 for high freq low cas latency
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lev[m]
* but ram is pretty cheap these days, 32gb was like $120 for high freq, low cas latency
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lev[m]
eureka! it did work
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lev[m]
that was moderately stressful, I was convinced I got sold a verizon model and wasted money I'd never get back
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lev[m]
all looking good, thanks a million anupritaisno1 !
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seashield[m]
lev: He's great, he helped me out too.
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madaidan[m]
He called me a coomer :(
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anupritaisno1[m]
[lev](
matrix.to/#/@kdlev:matrix.org) remember to lock your bootloader
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lev[m]
yep, I did so
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lev[m]
restoring from backup was impressive too, there's still configuration items I need to go and fix, but it definitely did the bulk of the work
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LogsOnVar[m]
Does anyone knows if I can install and run microG core on GrapheneOS?
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LogsOnVar[m]
Sorry is this is an awful question, but I'm a newbie on this.
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LogsOnVar[m]
if**
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jacksen
High to all.
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jacksen
Just wish to ask does #grapheneos allow running of accessibility services such as talkback which is a screen reader.
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anupritaisno1[m]
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jacksen
Is this check disabled due to other librarys from accessibility services messing with things?
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jacksen
Meaning the signiture spoofing
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jacksen
and is the signature spoofing permission important for me to have? will it be a security wrisk if i do not have this
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anupritaisno1[m]
Basically most apps won't work at all
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anupritaisno1[m]
But if you just want microg for something like google camera
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anupritaisno1[m]
It will work
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LogsOnVar[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "But if you just want microg for "> Tbh I just wanted to use it for GMaps, nothing more.
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LinusSexTips[m]
follow the instructions on the website
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LinusSexTips[m]
you need to use powershell to run the script
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LogsOnVar[m]
<anupritaisno1[m] "Basically most apps won't work a"> Do you know if Google Maps work? That's the only Google Service I really depend on for now