vudu: did you follow the instructions?

What instructions? I did everything on the grapheneos website, it s not my first time installing grapheneos, mever had this issue with pixel 3a

no where in the instructions does it say to use `snapshot-update`

Only 4a gave me this error, and after cancelling snapshot-update everything could continue, only i m not sure what the command means and if i canceled something importent

have you tried reflashing

i recommand to watch youtube.com/watch?v=gQkb0OAOXoc

thats how installed

maybe u had a stuck update from previous OS

thats how i installed*

remove that timont

I know how 2 install, never had this error before

timont[m]: noo thats a bad video :P

who so?

he recommends to do hacky things

not recommended

But did i cancel something important by typing this command, fastboot snapshot-update cancel?

vudu: you canceled some previous update

oh i see

Because now it works fine i can install the device, not sure if i broke something with the command

if you reflashed, it will be fine

it was some update that hadnt been fully applied that was blocking something

thats one reason to recommend fully update your phone before installing grapheneos

Okeyy , so i m good now

I did, but the android software updater is trippin

maybe the previous bad ROM

Maybe i dont know,

Anyone knows what the benefits are from using vpn with graphene?

same as vpn with any other os

Encrypting data, i read somewhere with vpn apps cannot leak grapheneOS to carried so they dont know that my device runs grapheneos

Carrier*

Hello, quick question, was the decision to not include Gapps in grapheneOS mainly for privacy or is there concerns about security when on the device?

hello analtenderloin[m, there are several reasons why Google Software Frameworks is not included in GrapheneOS:

The first one is that Play Services was considered to be invasive.

This isn't to say that it's not possible to use the factory operating system and have a Google account set up in a way that's *fairly* privacy preserving, GrapheneOS chose to go beyond the norm.

The second reason is because even if somehow, GrapheneOS wanted to use Play Services, we'd need to pay for them.

Pay for a service that can spy on you, thats amazing lol

vudu: that's part of how Google makes its money though. OEMs have to pay the royalties to get the rights to sell handsets with Google Play Services functionality.

Yeah i understand, but its still strange, it s like i m spying in a girls locker room when they shower and than ask the girls 2 pay me for it lol

Ha, yes, yes indeed!

thats a funny way to say it

Has anyone tried adding Google's LPA (eSIM Manager) to Graphene?

Dylanger: yes

It has a dependency on GMS

I thought it was already added..

<anupritaisno1[m] "It has a dependency on GMS"> Calyx has it working, I don't think there are any dependencies on GMS

I'll have a play with it today

calyx is only for pixel phones right?

<Dylanger[m] "Calyx has it working, I don't th"> How does that prove anything?

"think" being the keyword, gonna have a play with it today

TheJollyRoger: we wouldn't have to pay for Play services but we'd need to pay for official CTS compliance testing, we'd need to comply with all the rules

which would rule out some of our privacy and security features - beyond just including Google apps and services

and we'd need to ship their version of a bunch of components via the Play Store

it would not be anything like GrapheneOS

we couldn't have features like the Sensors and Network toggles not compliant with CDD, among others

we couldn't make changes to a bunch of core OS components since we'd have to ship their versions of the APEXes and apps

TheJollyRoger: there is no royalty for shipping GMS

Just a bunch of legal contracts

shipping Play services has never been considered, it was never an option, it is completely opposed to what we want to do...

And those contracts can be pretty restrictive

And yet manufacturers manage to destroy the security model

we couldn't even make an ALTERNATE version of the OS with Play services because they require CDD/CTS compliance for everything you ship

not just what you've gotten approved for Play services / Google apps

strcat[m]: anupritaisno1[m] oh, I see, I see, whoops.

Does anyone know how to get the device into fastbootd so I can flash the super partition (system, vendor, product etc)

Is grapheneOS fully ready with the pixel4? I'm thinking of buying that phone specifically for this.

pixel 4 no prob

Dylanger[m]: `fastboot reboot fastboot` when in bootloader mode

?

Will that load the device into fastbootd?

Dylanger[m]: yes

my miserable phone is in fastbootd now

Oh awesome

Cheers

<nscnt "That's why we try to teach the a"> I love that aspect of your approach. It adds so much value to me.

what

why are random people disliking?

wei dont agreed with your point thats why

yeah

> I love that aspect of your approach. It adds so much value to me.

Same here

what a shit poit you got there

* what a shit point you got there

what a hate here jesus

shut up

okay than

so i hear that there is a lsawsuit going

What in the world is going on here with the reactions?

not sure

shutup

??

Reactions were a mistake

no it doenst

They are useful for polls though.

Anyway this is off topic.

dont your there fuck up with that

???

what is going on???

lol

lol

this funny

umm

Some people having a field day here

okay tihs weird

yup

is i

Trying to ruin the atmosphere of this room, welp.

stop

offtopic channel

Yeah, the room is being brigaded by trolls.

why?

come on

why move way?

...

umm?

what is going

on

i dont know

<hypokeimenon[m] "Yeah, the room is being brigaded"> This is what's going on

lol

stop

talking

a bit rude

lol

Unsure why some people all of a sudden getting negative randomly other than trolling or giving a bad impression

since are so many stupid people here

wow

plz stop

are you going to ban random people?

i think they are bots not sure

<strcat[m] "we couldn't have features like t"> Wait, that's deviant of CDD?

shut up

No surprise that they haven't implemented those permissions upstream

stop being so dumb

There is a full scale invasion going on lol

<Lia[m] "No surprise that they haven't im"> fuck you

so bots jeuss

mhm

this is strange and funny

no is not

Banning seems the only way, honestly.

so many banneds

i dont know who is bot and not bot lol

A bunch of these trolls/bots/I have no idea are also in OT channel

wow

what toy mean?

@room mods

Lia: made you mod

what's goin on?

why the room @

bots

??

??

what

<dymaner[m] "what"> w??

Matrix needs them custom angry ping reaccs

shutup

bitch

Lmao 🧂

everyone's here, party time

lol

good that you're keeping positive, kmac_pop!

Glad to see it!

yif you dont be dudmb

that be friendly

Hi everyone. I'm just going to put the IRC channel in moderated mode for a little bit until we can get this sorted out. I apologize for the inconvenience.

TheJollyRoger: ban on Matrix side not IRC

IRC ban lets them rejoin

and it just repeatedly kicks

ban Matrix side

Ok.

did you undo moderated mode?

Yeah it should be undone now.

also use remove recent messages on Matrix too

for each that you ban

Lia (kde): can you join offtopic too

Sure

and TheJollyRoger can +o you on IRC to give mod on Matrix

I don't have Admin in that channel like I do here

TheJollyRoger: get someone to test if they can post?

in both

Sorry. Just a sec.

TheJollyRoger: test

wow, matrix moderation tools really are a nightmare :/

Should have used web instead. Can't find delete recent messages option

Can someone tell what happen?

Copperhead raiding the channel again

standard stuff

Copperhead?

read the information on the site please

I already talked to you about this

Will do

But was the "raid" all bots?

no

Or group of people?

offtopic channel

wow. is this normal? absolutely unbearable. any way to boot these troublemakers out? i cant even keep up and actually had real issues to ask about but ill wait til better times.

jayell: just ask now

don't let Copperhead trolls deter you from that

grapheneOS devs need to upgrade there security here lol

overal I recommend using IRC rather than Matrix

they've got bigger fish to fry

timont: you're very close to being banned for concern trolling

also not sure they can do much on that front

Yeah, sounds like a better plan (to use IRC)

Woops sorry

<strcat[m] "overal I recommend using IRC rat"> For everything? or just for servers?

stick to on-topic conversations here please and don't cause more problems

Atleast im not raiding channels

<timont[m] "Atleast im not raiding channels"> id watch yourself though bud

dont want to be getting banned

very good to know. i have hexchat on this machine. better irc to recommend?

does that mean the bridge is not two way?

I mean what is the point if you cant talk anthing

But yeah sure ban me

timont: im gonna call your parents and tell them you need less screen time. please go away

timont: I've had enough of the concern trolling

you showed up here today, the same day people are raiding the channel

you've been repeatedly concern trolling since you got here

someone is mad

What?

lol

I have been herr for 8 months

poor guy got banned the second he sent his message lol /s

As right now

faxing: was already likely going to ban him simply for when he joined

timont: offtopic channel for offtopic stuff

moderating the channel when it's being raided is not us being draconian

<strcat[m] "faxing: was already likely going"> Ah okay, I see - I was just kidding either way, though

<faxing[m] "Ah okay, I see - I was just kidd"> Carefull or might get ban of making a joke

<timont[m] "Carefull or might get ban of mak"> come on man let it go.

go to off topic or stop

eyyyyyyy he's gone!

finally

they're clearly a concern troll

Welp, and they'd talk bad behind backs, as usual.

all they've been doing all day

very common tactic used by Copperhead via sockpuppet accounts

is the default captive portal url a graphene one or a google one?

hey

it's a graphene one

how do i change it to google?

bentley: grapheneos.org/faq#default-connections covers this

oh, thanks

are you having some issue with the default?

njha: fixed in latest release

copperhead will the lawsuit better give up already

via using connectivitycheck.grapheneos.network

* copperhead will win the lawsuit better give up already

that's the tweet I linked to :)

ok earlier i asked about lack of notification dots. i have them enabled in settings for phone and signal but never see any dots after missing messages etc

sonerx: Copperhead's case doesn't even have a legal basis, and that's after them lying about everything

njha[m]: since there are few grapheneos users in my vicinity, it makes me relatively identifiable to wifi owners

so if there's an option i'd like to use a google url

that's actually a good point 🤔

For now I'll just have to set it this way until I get back to Matrix, just in interim, sorry strcat.

thanks strcat

Settings ➔ Network & internet ➔ Advanced ➔ Internet connectivity check doesn't seem to exist for me though

unless that's in the next update

njha: are you up-to-date

what version

<njha[m] "unless that's in the next update"> What's the build number of your current OS?

bentley: you can use the standard URLs, grapheneos.org/faq#default-connections covers blending in with standard Android devices

yes, the setting worked for me.

2020.11.05.18

imagine wasting your time making new accounts and not realizing I have a way to tell it's the same people

njha: not current

njha: grapheneos.org/releases#changelog

<njha[m] "2020.11.05.18"> Update your OS first, It's not available in that version

ah that's out of date

hmm OTA in settings didn't find anything

You guys handled that very well. Hopefully we can monitor people joining the room and get them banned quicker. That won't be the last of it. At least they were easy to spot

Odd. Did Seamless Update Client have Network permission granted?

You can do sideloading if you want to

yup, update client has network granted

Odd... Wondering if you use ProtonVPN?

oh wait this is awkward... I have dnd permanently on so none of the notifications show up

I haven't used android in years so I didn't know it did that

just reboot probably?

yeah that was it :/

🤦‍♂️

and btw

1 thing to note

latest release using grapheneos.network now instead of grapheneos.org for those checks

but the Settings app still uses the grapheneos.org URLs until next release

just hadn't updated that yet

so when you select 'GrapheneOS' there it still uses the connectivitycheck.grapheneos.org ones

til next release

atm we don't have code to migrate connectivitycheck.grapheneos.org to connectivitycheck.grapheneos.network in existing saved settings

we could add that

connectivitycheck.grapheneos.org works fine - and it can login to many captive portals fine

the issue is that when you use a network with a really terrible one that requires browser login instead of the OS login interface

the notification from the OS will pass connectivitycheck.grapheneos.org to the browser

and grapheneos.org has HSTS so it doesn't work

<njha[m] "🤦‍♂️"> Ah.

that's why we're moving to grapheneos.network

just not totally done the migration

can use the standard URLs too though

that's such a weird feature though, I want my notifications to come through but not make noise

and instead it just hid all the notifications from me

That's why rebooting phones every n hours help sometimes. (For verified boot reasons, and also updates)

Just silent your notification sounds in settings?

Someone mind giving a quick summary of what’s going on? Why all the notifications?

some spammers came in

nothing of note

Ah

That’s a pain in the ass

njha: you can change notification channel settings

to not make noise

and yeah you can silence notifications

thanks, I did figure it out

DnD is extreme

I just need to get used to android again :)

Does Graphene use proprietary drivers? I would assume so.

<strcat[m] "imagine wasting your time making"> I will admit, Matrix makes it a little _too_ easy to make accounts

SwankyBarbecue4: the kernel drivers are all open source

for Android, in general

firmware is generally proprietary (Qualcomm's late stage boot chain is open source though)

How 'bout wifi? Bluetooth?

and Qualcomm has an SDK that's partly open source in CAF and partly proprietary (OEMs get source, and it's widely distributed, but not actually open source)

SDK is the vendor libraries, etc.

like GPU driver library

Dylanger: the main issue is unlike IRC

there isn't a way to just ban them like *@specific_thing

reverse dns name or whatever

You can ban entire servers

freenode I can ban people by IP essentially

Ah right

Dylanger: they're just using matrix.org

I want to IP ban

I can't

Yeah fair enough

freenode doesn't let you use Tor unless you connect to their onion service and authenticate

and they have a lot of anti-abuse stuff

notice this nearly all happens over Matrix

almost always

ideally this would just be an IRC channel TBH, too late for that now though, and if we didn't have a Matrix room, others would want to make bridged rooms

so don't really have a choice

but it makes abuse / ban evasion too easy

they can just keep making accounts

what are the moderators supposed to do?

it's broken.

Hm true

next time I'll just disabling joining the channel on Matrix

Matrix are working on fixing the issues with abuse, I exclusively use Matrix/Element haven't touched IRC for many years

I'm sure they're working on bettering moderation right now

the bridge is also really broken atm

they need to deploy the new version of it at least

for matrix.org

Yeah we're still on room version 1

Dylanger, what fixes for abuse are they making?

This room is vulnerable to state resets

Dylanger: because they created this channel

we didn't

the matrix.org bridge made this channel

we just used the existing channel

doesn't upgrading mean everyone on Matrix has to click a button to rejoin?

You can upgrade it, any admin can, it shouldn't break the bridge

that's really annoying

I'm not really supposed to be an admin here per the bridge

I asked Matrix admins to make me an admin here

I don't have admin in offtopic yet

I can't get it without manual intervention by the admins

the bridge may not be able to handle me upgrading the room

I'm not testing it here

has to be tested somewhere else 1st

Better than someone doing a state reset tho, that would totally mess this room up

Fair enough, just know v1 has security issues

upgrading the room may brick it

I didn't choose that they made it v1 from the start

the bridge making it as a v1 room makes me think it can't handle newer

Lemme ask around

matie2: just stop

??

what??

stop raiding our channels

don't you have something better to do?

i get pay for this so no

paid how much

alot 10 euro per hour

Troll confirmed, his keys match the other dude

* Troll confirmed, his keys match the other person

matie2: who pays you then

that's not a lot of money

for me it is and second cant tel

yeah, you can tell

i got to pay first

alright i will stop

but copperhead wont be happpy with this

hey

who?

Thanks for confirming this ^^

Look for this

They all have 1 session

With the same fp

but yeah will stop now

last thing i just wanting to say this is not copperhead

but a random guy from the internet

who testing a exploit in matrix

we know Copperhead is paying you

if you want to you can ban and i will leave be but if you let me i can explain

So that's where their money go lmao, what a waste. Can't even get a proper dev team to port security patches on time lol

What a joke.

an "exploit" lol

Lia: yeah they pay some guy on fiverr to raid the channel

and he's not even smart enough to keep his mouth shut and then tries to cover that up

Lmao. It's kept on the logs anyways.. *shrugs*

<strcat[m] "an "exploit" lol"> sudo su

Oh no I'm root I must have found an exploit

<anupritaisno1[m] "Oh no I'm root I must have found"> Lol

Do you like jazz

Oh no

It's the deletion

It waa nothing, ignore it.

* It was nothing, ignore it.

<dakotah[m] "Do you like jazz">

<Dylanger[m]> Do you though

Yes we must know

Does anyone like modern ska? (I don't)

Neat, eSIM is working

Graphene, Sunfish

Dylanger: OT

ot?

User-installed microG?

This is a google app, not really on topic for graphene

Dylanger: even if it does work it is a google app

We need our own replacement for it

Agree, stoked this is working anyway needed it

Does an implementation exist already?

FOSS

Dylanger: is it a priv-app

or a regular app

I assume priv-app

Dylanger: I told you, we only have enrollment broken

You can enroll on the stock ROM

And then flash graphene

It's a priv-app, but you could grant the permissions to a user app iirc

With the carrier permission?

Been a while since I looked at it

Just enroll on stock and then flash graphene

strcat: basically Google's enrollment app is a gms dependent app

Actually, there's no dependency on gms at all

The app just checks if the google play services app exists and crashes if it doesn't

Shipping a noop app that just has the package name for play services is enough to make it work

You can pm disable microg and it still works

It's quite stupid

It works as microG being a userapp as well

Dylanger: please move this to OT

And delete those images

This is not going to be implemented this way on graphene

And right now those images might make people think we have a fix already

When we do not

Promoting discussion around this is good, if another mod wants to censor that, feel free

Howdy everyone. Quick question. Trying to avoid purchasing another locked Pix 3. This new seller is offering a Pix 3 and has stated "It's unlocked. I bought it through Google fi but I've been using a Verizon sim" and also "The Google fi sim is built-in but you don't have to use it. It'll work with any other network"

Is this something that will hinder an installation of GraphOS?

enable adb and run `adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid`

if that is `00000000`, it's not a locked variant

If you have a laptop and adb installed with you, the option to see above is feasible

True. But wouldn't becoming a "developer" and making sure OEM is unlockable provide me with the same assurance?

I do have an older MacbookPro I could bring along when I meet up with the guy. This is a cash transaction on Offerup

nice, just make sure adb is installed there

You can do that with similar instruction on grapheneos.org/install to set the path btw, then test it by `adb --version` if it's detected

I will using the Standalone platform-tools. But what about the question I raised? More out of curiosity than anything else: wouldn't I be assured the phone isn't locked once I confirm that the OEM unlocking isn't grayed out?

The adb stuff is to make sure it is indeed flashable and unlockable/relockable

Copy you. Thnks Liakde!

hmm, I'm thinking about installing graphenos to my new phone, but recently coronatracing stuff has gotten quite important. For Germany, there is a FOSS-fork codeberg.org/corona-contact-tracing-germany/cwa-android that does tracing without gapps/microg. Anyone given it a try on graphene and can tell me whether it works? $websearch was unfortunately not helpful

Ah: codeberg.org/corona-contact-tracing…droid/issues/26#issuecomment-162302 people seem to be using it successfully, nice

<noctux "hmm, I'm thinking about installi"> besides that, there is somehow no real use of that. my parents use it and got a notification they were near an infected. great, so what you do with that info?

but its offtopic i just realised, sry

Hi, i wonder why i cant see the database from my signal app in grapheneos? I want to clean it but nothing shows in the map?

vudu: In the map?

When i go to files, and then select the signal file,

There only a subfile: backups, but thats empty 2,

The app data isn't stored on the filesystem

Where can i find it?

I am using a pixel 4 with the latest grapheneos

I'm not actually sure if there's a readily-available way to get to it

Best way to clean it would be to do it from within the app

But if i delete the comversation in the app, wil it also be wiped from the database?

Of course

Because i ve been reading about cellebrite able to restore deleted conversation from signal

That's for #grapheneos-offtopic, and that whole article was nonsense

Okeyy, so cleaning signal is just deleting comversations in the app

Thanks for the help

vudu: nitter.net/moxie/status/1337434126186553345

I have a GrapheneOS.org suggestion. Consider adding a tab that says devices supported (I'm thinking between the features and install tab). You would include the information from the FAQ, and also a table with the supported devices and the contact info of the maintainers (if they're okay with that)

I think it will make it clearer in terms of why devices like the Pixel 4a 5G and Pixel 5 aren't supported, and what it would take for them to get supported.

I don't have much HTML experience, but it this is a good idea I could try making an official pull request.

I think it's on the FAQ

kopolee11[m]: Sure, put in a pull request: github.com/GrapheneOS/grapheneos.org

* I think it's on the FAQ (nvm reread the message)

Hi, I've recently installed Graphene and greatly appreciate having a privacy conscious OS.

However, while I've found superior F-droid alternatives for many of my usual apps, unfortunately in a few cases it is impossible for me to live without Google Play Services' notification component. I've installed Micro G services and the microG services framework Proxy (GmsCore), but I haven't been able to recieve notifications from these GP-dependent apps. Would anyone mind sharing some advice? Thanks.

MicroG isn't supported by GrapheneOS

I have it installed, but I take it you mean MicroG and access to Google is blocked at a lower level?

I believe that there should be support within the OS

thran: It's not so much blocked, you have compile in microg when you build the sources for graphene itself

in order for it to work

Like I'd really rather not have to use MicroG or anything from the big G, but unfortunately too many people I know use certain messaging apps that rely on it.

I believe you have to compile in MicroG, like jpds said

@jpds, if I have to compile in support, I suppose I now have a project for the holidays lol

I've battled both Autoconf and Cmake, so I'm not too afraid. I'll take a look.

Thanks for your help, and your work on the OS. Hopefully someday we won't need to rely on any services from Big G at all.

I'm looking forward to the MicroG inclusion in GrapheneOS

When/if it does come, I hope we can have a toggle for it for each app like we can toggle other permissions (Sensors, Networking, Location, etc).

Is it in the pipeline, or is it something the maintainers would object to? Similar to how some Linux distros would be strict against non-free code.

*strictly

> <@lelmister101:matrix.org> I'm looking forward to the MicroG inclusion in GrapheneOS

>

Not exactly "included", but will support some time in the future as a user app, not a system app.

Hello. I've went and bought a Pixel and flashed GrapheneOS onto it, but when I ran Auditor it told me there was an errror verifying attestation.

I'm wondering if anyone would have an idea of what might have went wrong?

Is the date of auditor and auditee set right?

Should be, though they were set in different timezones

<Liakde[m] "Is the date of auditor and audit"> As in the phones used for attestation

Would that cause a problem?

It shouldn't

I'll try and pick the same timezone to eliminate that anyway I guess

Yeah, you can try that

Otherwise, if it still fails, you can pretty much reflash

Wait, does the Auditor have to be unrooted?

refraction: Restart your Pixel.

I had the same issue and restarting it fixed it.

<Golli[m] "I had the same issue and restart"> Oh yeah, forgot about restarting and verified boot doing its thing, yeah, try that first

<Golli[m] "I had the same issue and restart"> Let me try that

<Golli[m] "I had the same issue and restart"> Doesn't seem to be working

Guess reflashing it is then?

Yeah. Unless the Auditor is not supposed to be rooted?

rooted?

Wdym rooted?

Auditor is bundled into the OS, but doesn't have root access

No, I mean the other phone doing the Auditing

I think that doesn't run GrapheneOS then

Yeah

which is why it probably won't work

I was just using my old phone with Auditor installed on it

<refraction[m] "No, I mean the other phone doing"> Probably, do you have another stock Android, or at lease custom OS without root

refraction: What phone are you using to audit your Pixel?

<Golli[m] "refraction: What phone are you u"> It's a Nokia 7 Plus flashed with Pixel Experience

Yeah. I got a successful verification with a stock Android phone with no root

Guess you can't use a rooted phone to do Auditing

Ah, that's a relief then, the flashing itself was a success

refraction: you are using an unsupported modified OS

Only stock is supported

Thanks for the help Lia (kde): and Golli

anupritaisno1: I see

<refraction[m] "anupritaisno1: I see"> Use the stock OS on your Nokia to verify the attestation

These terrible custom ROMs often break a lot of things

<anupritaisno1[m] "Use the stock OS on your Nokia t"> Understood

So even a non-rooted lineageos phone wont work for that?

probably not

I don't know why it wouldn't work. Auditor device (device that performs verification) that's compatible with Android 7.0+ and with a camera should be fine

Stock is supported?

* Stock is the only onesupported?

* Stock is the only one supported?

(I believe)

Yea, just read. Nvm my message

Does volte work for anyone on art?

*at&t

Well, I read the message from anupritaisno1[m] but I lack the idea why the Auditor device would need to be stock Android (or ofc GrapheneOS)

Mh, nevermind. Everything else is just not _officially_ supported, I guess. It could work, though?

<assman "Does volte work for anyone on ar"> I don't have ATT but I've heard people saying that it worked - so y'know it's a gamble.

Mine doesn't

It always switches over to 4G only for phone calls

If I change it to LTE only mode, can't make phone calls

Does VoLTE not work for any carriers? Or is it hit and miss?

help

oops, wrong screen

refraction: time zone isn't an issue, the time should be correct on both though

refraction: you can use any Android 7+ phone as the Auditor, it doesn't verify that phone, it verifies the Auditee

if it's failing that indicates that you device is not running GrapheneOS, or you're screwing up something about the verification process

* if it's failing that indicates that your device is not running GrapheneOS, or you're screwing up something about the verification process

Golli: there won't be a toggle, it's not how things work, and microG will never be part of GrapheneOS, we've published what our plans our for that

Posted this in the Graphene subreddit and was referred here. When I connect my Pixel phone to my Mac the phone defaults to charge only with no data transfer. I am able to switch the USB preferences but whenever I restart the phone to get to the bootloader that selection resets to "no data transfer". This results in an endless loop of < waiting for device > when I run "fastboot flashing lock"

refraction: unless the device you were using as the Auditor is totally broken, it should be working fine, what's happening is that it's detecting something is wrong and you've found an incorrect reason to ignore what it's telling you

which is unfortunate

brethberie: changing that is not part of installing GrapheneOS, that just changes the mode of the device (as a USB peripheral itself) within the OS

brethberie: the flashing process does not take place within the OS, that doesn't do anything relevant

brethberie: are you following grapheneos.org/install ?

did you already install GrapheneOS and need to lock now?

the instructions have you do that right after flashing

Yes install process has been completed. Am I unable to lock the bootloader on MacOS if install was performed on Linux?

no reason you can't do that

why not do it where you started it and had fastboot working?

the official install process has you do that before rebooting so you don't forget

<strcat[m] "why not do it where you started "> One computer is always with me one is not. I've reinstalled fastboot multiple times and updated pathname. Fastboot --version returns: "fastboot version 30.0.5-6877874". I've tested multiple different USB-C cables including the one that came with the phone. fastboot flashing lock always results in: < waiting for device >

use USB A to USB C cable

Isn't this a permission issue?

brethberie: the phone is in fastboot mode (not recovery)?

brethberie: as I said that is not relevant

<emsyna[m] "use USB A to USB C cable"> I tried this as well no look.

brethberie: fastboot does not involve the OS, does not connect to the OS, and that OS setting has no relevance

you are supposed to boot it into the bootloader menu

the USB mode in the OS has no relevance and is supposed to start at no data transfer

it doesn't remember the setting, it would be insecure, this is how AOSP works

I understand that but the computer itself won't recognize the phone at all in any of those modes. Aside from the fastboot issue it won't let be switch USB controlled by connected device. That being said I am in the bootloader menu when running all fastboot commands.

sounds like you don't have a working cable/port then

you'll be able to finish it without trouble on the computer where you did 90% of it

3 different cables all of which work with other devices. 4 different ports on 6 month old Macbook all of which work on other devices.

or you can figure out why this computer doesn't have working USB

brethberie: working with other devices doesn't mean they are working cables

use the cable that came with the phone

lots of USB cables aren't spec compliant

especially ones that come with most other phones

USB cable shipped by google in the google pixel 3 packaging did not work.

plugging it directly into the computer?

Yes no adapters USBC to USBC

Is this a compatibility issue or is the only time you can lock the bootloader immediately after install?

no

you can lock it any time

the instructions tell you to do it then, and that was the best time to do it

but you still can

you're having an issue with USB

I strongly recommend using the computer you started the process on

if not, you'll need to figure out why USB isn't working

Yea, might be a "bad" USB cable, might be an issue with the USB port / USB controller / driver for that controller

I’m trying setup 2 GraphenOS devices to send to people in my circle. They are tech illiterate. Previously I sent them iPod Touches and used a free and awesome MDM platform called Jamf to manage problems. Anyone can give a plug to any MDM they used with GrapheneOS or Android in general they recommend ?

Hey will Kiosk mode work on GrapheneOS?

Try asking in the offtopic channel #grapheneos-offtopic:matrix.org but personally, I don't have any plug or recommendations of any MDM platforms

Thanks !