• kochi
    annevk: thanks for everything. I was not well available last week due to private matters, but will be doing more stuff for the f2f this week and the next week.
  • kochi
    annevk: are you coming to Tokyo, or if not, could you join VC remotely?
  • smccandlish
    Any of the autoconfirmed around? Need to set up wiki.whatwg.org account
  • smccandlish
    Domenic, you around?
  • smccandlish
    GPHemsley: What about you? I'm going down the autoconfirmed list. Need help with getting wiki.whatwg.org account.
  • smccandlish
    Is anyone active at all right now?
  • MikeSmith
    smccandlish: I can create an account for you
  • smccandlish
    Yay!
  • smccandlish
    I requested one via e-mail a long time ago, but never saw a response, so this seems the way to go.
  • MikeSmith
    yeah
  • smccandlish
    What will you need from me?
  • MikeSmith
    I get those e-mail messages but ignore them at this point
  • smccandlish
    Too much spam?
  • MikeSmith
    no, just that I don’t want to encourage people to keep using that wiki
  • smccandlish
    Is a replacement in the works?
  • MikeSmith
    well I personally think we should take all the current content there and move it to a github wiki
  • MikeSmith
    but others disagree
  • MikeSmith
    anyway, to set up an account for you, I need an e-mail address and your preferred username
  • MikeSmith
    feel free to PM them if you want
  • smccandlish
    That sounds reasonable, since people could use their existing accounts. Anyway, I'm a pretty public figure, so no secrecy needed. UserID: SMcCandlish, e-mail smccandlish⊙gmail.com
  • MikeSmith
    OK, gimme a minute, doing it right now
  • smccandlish
    Thanks much.
  • MikeSmith
    hmm, it says “username already in use”?
  • smccandlish
    ?? Hmm. I don't have a PW on file for that site. I can try stabbing guesses.
  • MikeSmith
    maybe I can have it send you a reminder
  • MikeSmith
    oh, you can yourself I think
  • MikeSmith
  • smccandlish
    Yeah, I just clicked on that. I had no idea the account already existed, and now feel very silly. Sorry for wasting your time.
  • MikeSmith
    no worries
  • smccandlish
    I'll go look for the reset. Have a good one. :-)
  • MikeSmith
    cheers
  • kochi
    MikeSmith: do you think if we have remote participants for the coming F2F at Google Tokyo, they can connect using Google Hangouts?
  • MikeSmith
    kochi: yes
  • kochi
    (depends on who they are, of course, but is "webex" required thing?)
  • MikeSmith
    no need to set up anything else
  • MikeSmith
    no, webex is not required
  • MikeSmith
    it is better to avoid it, actually
  • kochi
    ok, cool, then not setup is needed, then.
  • MikeSmith
    hai
  • kochi
    s/not setup/no setup/
  • annevk
    kochi: I land the Sunday before and depart Friday
  • kochi
    annevk: cool. In the w3c meetings page github.com/w3c/WebPlatformWG/blob/g…es/meetings/18-03-Web-components.md I didn't find your name and was wondering if you could not make it.
  • kochi
    we're trying to make the logistic as lightweight as possible, but in any case you need a blue security badge for entering the building. we are figuring out if name/company are required for passing those badges to guests.
  • annevk
    kochi: I guess I should update that
  • kochi
    annevk: thanks. we expect there are last-minute updates on the list, so no hurries.
  • annevk
    kochi: added
  • kochi
    annevk: thanks!!
  • annevk
    MikeSmith: I didn't realize that currently if you use <h1> followed by <h3> there's no conformance error
  • annevk
    MikeSmith: so this outline change will definitely affect the validator
  • MikeSmith
    yeah
  • MikeSmith
    which is fine as far as I’m concerned
  • MikeSmith
    happy to see that be made an error
  • annevk
    It used to be an error too I think in HTML4
  • annevk
    Insofar that required more than a quoted desk
  • annevk
    (I'm probably messing up that joke)
  • MikeSmith
    it was never an error in HTML5 as far as I can recall
  • MikeSmith
    the (second) outline view in the checker exposes it as problem
  • MikeSmith
    by design
  • MikeSmith
    by showing an empty placeholder for any heading levels that are missing in the hierarchy
  • MikeSmith
    oh I see that’s the first outline view now
  • MikeSmith
    I guess I reversed the order a while back
  • MikeSmith
    I guess at this point I really should just remove the (now-second) one, the “Structural outline” (generated from the outline algorithm)
  • nox
    HTML4? What year is this
  • annevk
    kochi: if you think there's other things worth categorizing with the existing issues, let me know
  • annevk
    kochi: I think I've mostly done my bit, except for working on fixes
  • Domenic
    annevk: re whatwg/fetch #505#issuecomment-366671504, in what way did HTTP start dealing with fragments? I hadn't heard.
  • annevk
    Domenic: they made it more explicit about how they work with redirects
  • annevk
    Domenic: so that kinda means the fragment has to go into the HTTP subsystem
  • Domenic
    Huh interesting
  • Domenic
    Probably a good thing
  • annevk
    I kinda like it actually, it's just a little risky at this point due to me not fully considering it early on
  • annevk
    And nobody reviewing noticing I suppos
  • annevk
    e
  • annevk
    smaug____: are you around? I want to ask about the strategy for whatwg/html #1127
  • annevk
    smaug____: do we basically run the insertion steps twice for DocumentFragment with some kind of flag that indicates when it's safe to execute scripts or do we just special case script elements or something else?
  • annevk
    smaug____: I'm inclined in the specification to special case script elements, unless there's other things we need to run the steps twice for
  • annevk
    smaug____: nm, that doen't work
  • nox
    annevk: Did the mixin stuff etc land in our WebIDL parser?
  • nox
    Wrong channel.
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